azdak ([info]azdak) wrote,

“Fanfic” as a fuzzy category

This arises from a discussion over on [info]liviapenn's journal and continued on [info]alixtii's. In the interests of full disclosure, I shall reveal that it is based on a theory from cognitive psychology called Prototype Theory, which argues that most categories are non-essentialist (ie. there is not a list of necessary and sufficient characteristics that will separate all and only members of the category from everything else in the world). Categories have fuzzy boundaries (ie. it’s not clear where some things stop being members of the category and start becoming something else) and are organised around “best examples” (known as prototypes, hence the name of the theory). The basic idea is thus that central members of a category exhibit a set of characteristics that everyone agrees are typical for a member of that category (so birds, for instance, have feathers, fly, sing, lay eggs, and are small enough to fit in your hand), whereas less central category members lack some of these characteristics (penguins and emus don’t fly, emus and turkeys don’t fit in the palm of your hand, ducks don’t sing – but they’re all still birds). In fact, less central members may have no characteristics in common with each other at all, but will still share some characteristics with prototypical members. Prototype theory arises from Wittgenstein’s theory of categorisation as a matter of “family resemblances” as alluded to by [info]alixtii, in which members of a family as a whole have physical features in common, but individual members of the family may not. So Uncle Fred has blue eyes, blond hair and pigeon toes; I have pigeon toes and red hair and green eyes, and my sister has red hair, green eyes and perfect feet. She shares no single identifying characteristic with Uncle Fred, but both of them share characteristics with me, and within the family as a whole both red and blond hair, green and blue eyes, and pigeon toes are common, but the distribution within individuals differs). One of the linguistic tests for whether something is a central category member or more of a marginal member is how far it is substitutable for the superordinate term. Thus in the sentence “Twenty or so birds twitter on the telegraph poles outside my window every morning” the words “robins, thrushes, sparrows” can be substitued for “birds”, but “duck, turkey, eagle, penguin” can’t (or at least not without causing surprise). And so it is with fanfic. I would argue that there is a list of prototypical characteristics that central members of the category “fanfic” display, such that everyone would recognise them as fanfic. And I suspect the “conceptual analysis” discussion is more about people proposing central characteristics than saying this particular characteristic alone is sufficient and necessary to define fanfic. So what might these central characteristics be? I propose the following list, which is emphatically not given in order of significance ( and always bearing in mind that less central examples of “fanfic” may exhibit no more than one of these characteristics):


1. It is not written for publication
2. It is derivative
3. It is about a media product
4. It is a written text
5. It explores emotional/sexual relationships in greater depth than in the original source
6. It hits a kink
7. It utilises certain tropes (hurt/comfort, cavefic, aliens made us do it, soulmates)
8. It utilises certain stylistic features (this one is bound to be controversial, but it’s not difficult to come up with a list of classic fanfic stylistic features, such as the use of epithets, which explains why it’s possible to say that The Da Vinci Code “reads like fanfic”)
9. It is written by fans for other fans (if it is drawerfic, the imaginary readership is still fans of the source and not general readers)
10. It is character-centric



If we look at the outliers, we see that R&G [ETA: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead]is a derivative written text about a media product while anthropomorfics are not written for publication and utilise certain recognisably fanifccish tropes (actually, it would be possible to argue that anthropomorfics are pastiches of fanfic in general, or that their source text is fanfic as a whole, but I digress). Note that there is an overlap with things like fanvids, which brush the very edges of the category (they’re not written, but they have a number of other characteristics in common with fanfic), which leads us into the theoretical waters of semantics. The salience of the central characteristics is affected by what other categories you are contrasting things with – “written” becomes most salient when contrasting fanvids with fanfic, “not for publication” when considering media tie-ins, “by fans for fans” when considering R&G. In fact, as [info]sallymn pointed out, any film or TV (or radio) adaptation is derivative and therefore doesn’t contrast with fanfic on this dimension; and the same is true of a remake of a film or a TV series. If “derivative” is taken as the sole defining criterion of fanfic, then all these things have to be included; only by considering other typical features of fanfic can we consider the ways in which such things are not like fanfic.
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[info]executrix

April 14 2007, 12:45:18 UTC 5 years ago

Speaking of fuzzy, this gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling because law often invokes things like "20-factor tests" to determine, e.g., if a person is an employee.

I would definitely include visual fanworks like icons, manips, and vids in the fanfic category. I'd say that the salient characteristic of a fanwork is not that it is derivative, but that it is not authorized by and *not subject to the control of* TPTB--whether Euripides CAN'T sue you or Universal Studios could but almost certainly won't.

Oh, if only The DaVinci Code were as well-written as fanfic! But I think that its sins are remembered in the orisons of 30s pulps, not fanfic.

[info]sallymn

April 14 2007, 13:40:22 UTC 5 years ago

Oh, if only The DaVinci Code were as well-written as fanfic! And it's positively daunting the number of best-sellers over the years that you could say that about, too...

The idea of 'derivative' gets to be tangled too - let us be honest, much genre fiction (especially stuff like romance, 'high' fantasy, westerns, war etc) is very derivative; the fact that the characters and 'worlds' are given 'original' overcoats of paint notwithstanding.

And then there's historical fiction. And then there's the roman a clef, where the names are new but the 'cast' is fairly clearcut: the difference between it and RPF is extremely... muddy...

[info]azdak

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[info]azdak

April 14 2007, 13:41:36 UTC 5 years ago

Oh, if only The DaVinci Code were as well-written as fanfic! But I think that its sins are remembered in the orisons of 30s pulps, not fanfic.


Aw c'mon, doesn't this remind you of a million fanfics you've read?

"Renowned curator Jacques Sauniere staggered through the vaulted archway of the museum's Grand Gallery. He lunged for the nearest painting he could see, a Caravaggio. Grabbing the gilded frame, the seventy six year old man heaved the masterpiece toward himself until it tore from the wall and Sauniere collpased backward in a heap beneath the rubble."

Just do a cut and paste job:

"Renowned UNCLE agent Napoleon Solo staggered through the vaulted archway of the museum's Grand Gallery. He lunged for the nearest painting he could see, a Caravaggio. Grabbing the gilded frame, the brunet agent heaved the masterpiece toward himself until it tore from the wall and Solo collapsed backward in a heap beneath the rubble."

See? DIY fanfic!

You know, I was expecting your sentence "this gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling because law often invokes things like "20-factor tests" to determine, e.g., if a person is an employee" to end "if a person is a person".

[info]par_avion

April 15 2007, 00:45:32 UTC 5 years ago

I'm very unhappy with a categorization system that puts vids and other visual fanworks in the fanfic category! They are all fanworks (or fanac) yes, but they are not fic. If one wants to define a category "fanwork" that is one thing, but vids are not a subset of fic. They have a 30 year history that is largely independent from fic.

Additionally, I would say that of the above points 1-10, 5-8 do not apply to vids. And frankly I think of vids as more transformative that derivative when it comes to the visual material. The audio, of coure, is just flat-out use, with some editing for length.

And, from elsewhere:

In a way, a songfic is just a low-tech vid. If I could, I would certainly film my stories

1. Filming a story isn't the same as making a vid. For one thing, vids are almost entirely limited to canonical source footage.

2. Just because some kinds of fic really want to be a vid, does not imply that some vids want to be fic, or that there are significant similarities between most vids and fic. AU vids exist, but they are rare and not representative of vidding in general.

Vids are more like meta than they are like fic.

[info]azdak

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[info]par_avion

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[info]peasant_

April 14 2007, 13:12:08 UTC 5 years ago

I love this because it just feels so right.

Can I tentatively add another to the list:

11. It is published in short story or serial chapter form.

I always feel the manner in which fanfic is presented and hence read is a significant part of what makes it fanfic. And whilst there are novel form fanfics, they are very, very rare.

What is R&G? (I promise I have been good and tried to google it, but my fu is weak.)

[info]executrix

April 14 2007, 13:34:00 UTC 5 years ago

replying to peasant: I don't think that novel-form fanfics are very rare. I always notice them because I don't have the patience to read anything that long!

Because I seem to be the first one to reply, I'll say that R&G is Tom Stoppard's "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead."

[info]azdak

April 14 2007, 13:47:27 UTC 5 years ago

R&G = Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead, which was what got me involved in the discussion int he first place, because I feel very strongly that if R&G is fanfic, then it's a very bad example of fanfic.

And I love prototype theory too :-) It makes so much sense, and it accounts for all sorts of weird little cognitive phenomena, like people thinking that if robins and ducks both live on an island, robins are more likely to pass on a disease to ducks than ducks to robins. Apply that sort of thinking to groups of people und voila, you've got an account of how stereotypes tick.


Are most novel-length fanfics in zines? I have to admit, I've never come across one, so you may have a point here (although I'd be inclined to think of length as one of those things that can vary within the "family", so just like some fanfic is slash and some is het and some is gen, so some is very very short and some is longer and a few examples are even novel length).

[info]executrix

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[info]azdak

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[info]executrix

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[info]aycheb

April 14 2007, 13:32:56 UTC 5 years ago

I sometimes wonder if genres are best though of as reading guides. This is slightly inspired by my father-in-law who could never settle down to enjoy a film without first asking “Is it a comedy?”
R&G can be fanfic just not very good fanfic (script format, no sex, poor characterization).

On the other hand your bird example reminds me that biologists, being more interested in evolutionary relationships than linguistic ones, use a slightly different rational for bird classification than Wittgenstein. Turkeys, thrushes and ptarmigans are classified as birds rather than for example mammals because they share more *derived* characteristics with penguins, partridges and plovers than with bats, badgers or bandicoots. A derived characteristic is one not shared with an “outgroup” ie something that’s definitely not a bird. I rather like your point about the importance of the comparator group in deciding which traits to call central as the same applies here, if you were to choose fruitflies as your outgroup then wings could not be considered a derived characteristic.

People classifying fanfic may be less obsessed with its historical origins than paleontologists so I don’t know how applicable a cladistics of stories would be (and I suspect it might throw up a slightly different set of subclasses than are commonly used). I have wondered if people who like to classify fanfic in terms of community might find such an approach useful.

[info]cathexys

April 14 2007, 14:01:05 UTC 5 years ago

Actually, as someone who does like to classify fanfic in terms of community, for me it is *all* about the historical origins. If I talk abourt media fandom, I clearly distinguish it from book fandom and celebrity fandom and soap opera fandom, so that the central traits get created for me in the zine stories of the seventies rather than Austen and Holmes derivative fiction...

So I think you're really on to something there!

[info]alixtii

April 14 2007, 14:02:34 UTC 5 years ago

Historical origins are at the very least semi-important (and probably much more important than that) to me, as has come up recently in a discussion on the problematic status of drawerfic.

[info]azdak

April 14 2007, 15:08:54 UTC 5 years ago

Funnily enough, I was thinking about cladistics after I'd written this, because I was originally going to give a central example of a long slashy Kirk/Spock story, and that made me think about the historical development of fanfic and whether my intuitive feeling that slash is more central than gen is a matter of where the branching off occurred, or whether I'm completely wrong and they're in fact like blond and red hair in my family resembalnces example. But at that point I realised I knew so little about fannfish history that there was no point in even speculating, so it's interesting to see that [info]cathexys thinks this could be a constructive approach.

I'm sure genre often functions de facto as a kind of reading guide. I also find them helpful for getting into the right mind-set for "coping" with a story - if I know something's a tragedy I can brace myself for the ending.

[info]aycheb

April 16 2007, 16:02:31 UTC 5 years ago

Cladistic approaches have been used to trace the evolution of different languages haven’t they? Thinking about it a bit more I can see it would be difficult to simply transfer the version used for biological evolution to genres as some of the simplifying assumptions (binary divergences and no cross-fertilisation between species after divergence) would be very, very dodgy to apply to fictional forms. Plus there’s probably no equivalent of DNA sequence data, which everyone can agree on the interpretation of and the analysis of which can be done by computer programmes.

Still some feature of the approach might be relevant, the importance of choosing your outgroup and ignoring or at least giving less weight to features which are shared by all organisms/narratives. If all fiction is derivative that’s no help at all in defining fanfiction, like wings in the bird example. But in practise what any phylogenist worth their salt would do would be to realise that bat and insect wings though functionally equivalent to those of birds are structurally not so much. And if you look carefully it’s possible to detect vestiges of bird-like wings in penguins and emus. All fiction may be derivative but only fanfiction makes a virtue of it and even the most AU PWP has vestigial derivativeness lurking in its crevices and influences?

Prototype theory does make a lot of sense in terms of how we learn words, or at least how I naively assume we do, child sees Alsatian, parent says dog, child sees poodle, parent says dog, child smells Labrador parent says dog etc. Is that the origin of it? I suppose, however, that people are asking both “What is fanfiction?” and “Is this fanfiction?” which are slightly different questions.

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[info]par_avion

April 16 2007, 02:48:31 UTC 5 years ago

I just wanted to say that your mentioning cladistics made me really happy! As a biology major I am often sad that, Vampire Population Ecology in the Jossverse aside, few of the concepts I studied are ever mentioned in fandom discussions.

[info]cathexys

April 14 2007, 13:58:19 UTC 5 years ago

I really really like this!!! I'm mostly looking at genre theory to try to define tentatively what we talk about when we talk about fanfiction, but it likewise has that aspect where two things may not look anything like one another and there are exemplary prototypes that we like to reference.

I'm wondering if we need a 5a if you're defining fanfiction rather than slash as "It explores aspects of the source text universe in greater detail" because there are case studies and adventure type stories and original character in universe stories that qualify likewise.

I'm a bit uncertain as well about your "no more than one characteristic" but then I do want to see a definition that does exclude published derivative Literature...

[info]alixtii

April 14 2007, 14:11:44 UTC 5 years ago

I think if we have a definition that can explicitly exclude a problematic case, we've abandoned fuzzy categoiries for a very complex, multifaceted conceptual analysis.

And if we're looking at language as use, then people in fandom do call published derivative literature fanfiction, as a fact about the way the community uses language.

And across the spectrum of genres, I think fanfiction is more likely to focus on relationships, even as it can explore other aspects in greater detail as well.

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[info]azdak

April 14 2007, 14:12:31 UTC 5 years ago

Prototype theory is great - it's so intuitively sensible, and it does actually clear up all sorts of problems in semantics.

You're absolutely right about 5a. The list is obviously rather subjective - this sort of thing needs to be tested by exposure to other minds - and is very much influenced by my own experience of fanfic, which is as something hugely character-driven.

As for the "no more than one characteristic", I'm not certain of what you're uncertain about? Do you think category members should share more than one characteristic? The trouble with fuzziness is that once you admit it exists, it does force you to recognise that the borders are complex places, and published derivative fic does sometimes have an awful lot in common with fanfic, even though it's quite clearly (by virtue of being written for publication) not a good example of fanfic. But it can be a good example of the kind of things fanfic does.

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[info]executrix

April 14 2007, 14:10:05 UTC 5 years ago

I think that there's also a sort of translucent overlay with a four-box scattergraph. Because some fanfic tries to be like the source text (stylistically as well as thematically) and succeeds, and some tries this but fails.

But there is also a very common motivation to "fix it" and/or be subversive, in which case the fantext deliberately departs from the source (e.g., Post Gauda Prime fics or stories with a pairing other than the canon couple that the writer doesn't like)--although if the intent is political, the writer may not be quite as free of prejudice as ze would like.

And, in addition to fanfics that relate to the source text in one way or another, there are fanfics that relate to other fanfics--as sequels (authorized or otherwise!), or as fix-its.

[info]azdak

April 14 2007, 15:03:31 UTC 5 years ago

In my previous existence I used to ask my students what they thought were the central characteristics for the category "dog" and one of them said "Bad breath", which seemed to me profoundly true, although there is of course sufficient variation within the category of "dog" to include rare examples that don't have halitosis. And just as there are all sorts of varying characteristics that occur withinthe category of dog (short-haired, long-haired, no hair at all, short snout, long snout, fussy eater, will eat anything, etc etc) so there is much variation within the category of fanfic, some of which is even structured, as you point out. Which just goes to show that it's usually much more rewarding to look at what's going on within a category than trying to identify the boundaries.

[info]trobadora

April 14 2007, 14:13:24 UTC 5 years ago

I followed you here from [info]alixtii's journal, and what a great post! It really is all about prototypes, and what we consider to be prototypical. That is what people are disagreeing on - it's the genre theory equivalent of three-point characterisation!

[info]cathexys

April 14 2007, 14:16:33 UTC 5 years ago

Oh, that's beautiful!!! three-point-genre :)

[info]azdak

April 14 2007, 15:22:07 UTC 5 years ago

Thank you!

[info]labingi

April 15 2007, 06:46:12 UTC 5 years ago

Great post! I agree wholeheartedly with all your characteristics except 8. I've seen so much fan fic in so many different styles, I can't think of a meaningful stylistic generalization.

[info]azdak

April 15 2007, 07:53:55 UTC 5 years ago

I have to admit that I originally phrased 8 as "It is not terribly well written" and then decided this was (a)tactless and (b) too much of a value judgment. Nonetheless, if I think about how the term fanfic is actually used (and not what fanfic ought to be, or has the potential to be, or what some examples of fanfic are) there is no denying that "typical" fanfic is associated with, well, not terribly good writing. A senetnce like "It's fanfic, but it's really well written" makes perfect sense, whereas "It's litearture but it's really well-written" doesn't, because we assume that being well written is part of literature. And if you look at the huge number of journal entries giving basic advice about checking grammar and spelling, or decrying the quality of a great deal of fanfic eg. in the Pit of Voles, then I think there's a lot of evidence that a being badly written definitely doesn't disqualify a story from being considered fanfic, whilst being excellently written makes it unusual. Still fanfic, but an unusual kind of fanfic.

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